@Charlotte, Julia's comment is stating the truth, but she never said that they couldn't make ANYONE believe it. Some have stronger minds than others, beliefs that are firmly cemented. I agree with her that is a conscious choice to believe their words, but for most the constant bombardments would eventually leak through your ears.
@Spencer when you think about dogs and animals that we've domesticated, they first had to be captured and physically controlled for a period of time, before we could tame them and alter their phycological composition. Before you know it, the animal will follow you without a leash or anything.
Julia is the equivalent of Clarisse in Fahrenheit 451. They're both captivating female figures that are the final push off a ledge for the main characters. They're inciting, attractive to the main characters, and encourage the rebellious thought.
@Josie Julia professing her love for Winston definitely pulls him away from the party. The idea of having a life with this woman, or at least being happy with her is finally vocalized. It's near impossible to do that with the ever oppressing party.
@Sarah I believe they're are a few people that do actually completely like Big Brother. Hitler had extremely loyal Nazi's who supported him to his very end. It's amazing when you consider how horrific Hitler was, and yet he never stood alone. I imagine Big Brother is the same way. After so much propaganda and brain washing I'm sure some are believers through n through.
@Sarah I think that everyone has some emotion of dislike towards the Party and don’t like the way they are having to live life. However, I don’t think that everyone has identified their emotions as “hate” towards the Party.
@Zach I think the Party inflicts so much brutality on the Proles because they are the ones who possess the most freedom and the Party is doing everything it can to make sure they won’t take advantage of their freedom. So, yes, I would say the Party does fear the Proles.
@Spencer I agree with Maggie that Julia represents change and something new. She shows that change is not always a bad thing, and sometimes it is needed.
@Riley I think Winston and Julia are attracted to one another because they both hate the Party. The Party has taught its citizens to unite in finding similar things to hate and I think it is going to backfire on them because now people will start uniting through hating the Party.
@Josie I think Julia saying she loved Winston pushed him further away from the Party because he has a taste of what he has been missing all of these years and I would think he would blame that on the Party and have bitterness towards them.
@Spencer I have to disagree with Zach on this one. If it were a trap, I don’t think O’brien would’ve given him the book by “Goldstein” to read because once he reads the book, he will start thinking for himself if he wasn’t already before. This could cause a rebellion.